Random thoughts... snippets of life in rural New England
*laughing*
Published on October 9, 2005 By HC1240 In Misc
I'm sitting here chuckling. After responding to an article earlier this evening, I just now returned to the article to find my reply gone, and left with no option to add a comment. I didn' t get some message saying I'd been blacklisted, but could someone explain to me if that's what happened?

I find this very interesting. My post was not offensive, did not demean anyone (or even speak to anyone in particular), or do anything else that I can think of that would cause someone to disable my voice. I find it comical that anyone would be so threatened by ME, that they would eliminate my offerings to the discussion and prohibit me from further comment. So much for free and open discussion, eh? Too funny.

Perhaps I'm wrong, and there's just something wacky going on with my settings. I don't think so though. Anyone care to hazzard a guess?

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on Oct 09, 2005
There's no reason I would know of that would cause that other than the obvious. I suppose they could have closed their article to comments. Did you see if you could comment on others of theirs?

Dunno which one you are refering to, so maybe the blogger in question will pipe up.
on Oct 09, 2005
You've been blacklisted, obviously.

You haven't been censored however. You still have the ability to speak...you still have a voice...through your own blog.

If you wish to expand on your deleted comment...or even just resubmit it exactly as it was posted so that others can read your POV, you are free to do so own your own blog.

We all blog for different reasons, and not everyone is interested in "free and open discussion," hehe...as evidenced by your experience today. Blacklisting is a pretty useful tool for creating the type of environment you want on your own blog. A nice little space of the world where you get to be the boss and say what goes and what doesn't. And now you know that that particular blogger is...umm...sensitive...to...umm...whatever it was you posted, hehe.

I've never seen you be belligerent, off topic, or obscene. Haha, now I'm dying to know what you posted that was blacklist-worthy.
on Oct 09, 2005
I'm still learning JU etiquette, so I don't know if it's appropriate to mention the blogger's name or not. The article has several comments posted after mine, and continues to gain responses, so it's not closed to everyone apparently, but only to me.

I happen to know that the blogger disagrees with my point of view vehemently, but still... I was respectful in my response (I thought) and can think of no reason for my post to have been deleted, other than just that it wasn't appreciated. Guess I overestimated the level of maturity here....
on Oct 09, 2005
I don't know if I can get back to it in order to post it here... at least exactly as it was. Maybe I'll check my history pages... too funny.

Ok... couldn't get back to the page (it reloads as is now, not from my cache... grrrrrrr). Basically, I was responding to this quote from Iconoclast's article (http://iconoclast.joeuser.com/index.asp?AID=88829:

Erwin: "It's according to what your heart is saying. If your heart is humble and you have the lord using a message to send along to America we need to wake up. Your heart will respond in humility saying, "Lord, whatever it takes, begin with me to do what's right.
If your heart is hard, you'll turn away. I can't define what men do, I can only say what God would be honored with."

He actually believes he can read God's mind.


My point was merely this... we cannot read God's mind. His thoughts are higher than our thoughts, His ways higher than ours. We CAN, however, know -- at least in part -- what God would be honored with. He has given us His Word that in many instances spells out what pleases Him, if we'll take the time to open it and read it. I then listed four or five verses of Scripture (I'm sure this is probably what was objected to) which clearly state what is God's will, what pleases Him, and what brings Him honor. There are many more than what I listed, but was just giving a sampling.

My post didn't even really address whether I thought the Senator was correct in his position regarding New Orleans and the Gulf Coast, I simply spoke to the fact that firstly, he didn't say that he could read God's mind... and secondly, that it IS possible to know to some extent what honors God (if you're a person of faith who believes the Bible to be God's Word.) I understand that Icon obviously doesn't... many don't for that matter and I understand that. I couldn't believe it just got deleted, though. LOL.

One of the things I love about JU is that I get to come here and have open discussion with people who are coming from a different perspective than I. We won't always agree -- in fact, we will probably rarely agree -- but I enjoy musing with you all and sharing our beliefs. It's sad that some are just not grown up enough to handle someone who differs from them. Live and learn.
on Oct 09, 2005

Dunno which one you are refering to, so maybe the blogger in question will pipe up.

I think we know which one.  I commented on it as well and then wrote my own.  I find it highly offensive and intolerant.

And HC, can you post what did on the other.  I would be interested to see the source of the controversy.

on Oct 09, 2005

not everyone is interested in "free and open discussion,"

Seems that is the order of the day.

on Oct 09, 2005

Maybe I'll check my history pages...

That has brought down many a hypocrite!

on Oct 09, 2005
And HC, can you post what did on the other. I would be interested to see the source of the controversy.

Tried to go back and get it, but to no avail. I posted the general gist of it, minus the Scripture references. Here's what I can remember... portions of Scripture that tell us what honors God...

Hebrews 13:16
And do not forget to do good and to share with others, for with such sacrifices God is pleased.

Prov. 14:31
He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God.

1 Thess. 5:16-18
Be joyful always; pray continually; give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.


There might have been one or two more, I can't remember... but they were only meant to serve as an example of how we CAN know what honors God, just as the Senator said.
on Oct 09, 2005

I'm not sure why he would blacklist you.  Perhaps he didn't want to hear a practicing Christian's point of view...maybe all he wanted was non-believer's har-haring and saying that he's right.

I don't think you're obnoxious enough to blacklist, though....

on Oct 09, 2005

My point was merely this... we cannot read God's mind. His thoughts are higher than our thoughts, His ways higher than ours. We CAN, however, know -- at least in part -- what God would be honored with. He has given us His Word that in many instances spells out what pleases Him, if we'll take the time to open it and read it. I then listed four or five verses of Scripture (I'm sure this is probably what was objected to) which clearly state what is God's will, what pleases Him, and what brings Him honor. There are many more than what I listed, but was just giving a sampling.

You said it a lot better than I did!  Given his latest crusade, I guess you harpooned the white whale!

Well said and well done.

on Oct 09, 2005

There might have been one or two more, I can't remember... but they were only meant to serve as an example of how we CAN know what honors God, just as the Senator said.

Tis ok, we were actually posting at the same time.  My previous post is how I think you got BLed

You were too good!  And those with no arguements cannot stand that.

on Oct 09, 2005
I don't think you're obnoxious enough to blacklist, though....

Aaaaaaw... thanks! . Nice to know I'm not THAT obnoxious! Hehehe...

You were too good! And those with no arguements cannot stand that.

I don't know if I'd call it good. Maybe too "preachy". But thanks.
on Oct 09, 2005

I don't know if I'd call it good. Maybe too "preachy". But thanks.

No , good!  Dont sell yourself short.  That was and is an attack on a person for the simple reason they are Christian.  And you defended well.  I am ashamed at the attackers for being so shallow.

on Oct 09, 2005
Ah, yeah, I saw that, and didn't notice that it had gone. This thing that makes the page skip down to the last comment caused me to miss it, I guess.

Like he said, he has blacklisted preacherman and Aeryck. I can't talk much, I've temporarily blacklisted one or both before. The difference here is you were making a point relavent to the blog, and Aeryck usually just uses other blogs as awkward segways into his own ravings...

Anyway, he's probably just lumped you in with all the other people he intolerantly writes off as meaningless. Evidently, if we all killed ourselves the world would be a better place...
on Oct 10, 2005
It's strange you should be brooding on the same thing that's going on the back of my mind. I did a post recently and it was actually a philosophical question. By way of emphasizing the message I had to cite several links, two of which selectively could not be connected to my post, but were otherwise accessible via Google. http://scatter629.joeuser.com/Link Don't you think they'd make matters worse if they messed with bloggers?

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