Random thoughts... snippets of life in rural New England
Did David believe in Jesus?
Published on February 1, 2006 By HC1240 In Religion

What do you think? Was salvation the same for the men of the Old Testament as it was for those after Jesus came? This is something I really struggled with early on in my faith. How could salvation be the same for both if Jesus hadn't even been born when Abraham was alive? And if they weren't saved the same way, then what does that say about the consistency of God? How could the Bible say that there is ONE way to the Father (Christ) when so many righteous men lived before He arrived? Here's my view of it...



While David didn't know Jesus, the men of the OT were looking forward to the Messiah. They didn't know His name, but the Messiah had been prophesied beginning in the 3rd chapter of Genesis.

"And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed: He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel." (Gen. 3:15)

Some even think that Eve thought that Cain (her firstborn) was the Messiah because of the name she gave him (it means "possession" - valued above all else), but that might be a stretch.

At any rate, I believe David was looking forward to the Messiah. I don't think you can technically say he knew the name "Jesus," but there's no doubt in my mind that he knew his salvation rested in the Messiah to come. He wrote several Messianic Psalms...

"The Lord said to my Lord, 'Sit at My right hand, till I make Your enemies Your footstool.'" (Ps. 110:1)

In Acts, Peter applied it to Jesus (Acts 2:34-36) and Jesus applies it to Himself in Mark 12:35-37.

Hebrews makes it clear that salvation is the same as it's always been (by faith) when it talks about Abraham (and others) being justified by faith. There's a verse that sums it up nicely...

"These all died in faith, not having received the promises [Jesus], but having seen them afarr off were assured of them, embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth." (Heb. 11:13)

and:

"And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, God having provided something better for us, that they should not be made perfect apart from us." (Heb. 11:39)

The Messiah hadn't come yet for them... yet they still were saved by looking unto Him, just as the Israelites were saved from snake bites by looking upon the bronze serpent on the pole (Numb. 21:9). God is the same yesterday, today and forever. And so is His salvation.

That's my take... So what are your thoughts?

Looking unto Jesus,

Heather

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on Feb 02, 2006
It is really a personal preference. I do it to set it apart from the other words. To me it is a way to give reverence to the meaning. That's all.
on Feb 02, 2006
Passage Genesis 1:27:27 So God created man in his own image,in the image of God he created him;male and female he created them.I felt it necesary to correct you in your comment when you stated "our" in regard to G~d. This is not plural.


Thanks for catching my typo. I wasn't wrong in the quote, but I was in the reference. still, the OT does refer God in the "us" plural. Yes, I am saying plural as a members of a unit. God (The Father) and God (Jesus Christ), since the Bible does teach us that Jesus (the Word) was with God when all things were created.
on Feb 02, 2006
I don't have anything to add other than I think it is a good discussion you have here.

Thanks, Jill.

I would like to know why God is written as G-D? Am I missing something?

I know that Jews don't spell out the name of God either. I read somewhere that based on the words in Deut. 12:3-4, the Rabbis deduced that it is forbidden to erase the name of God from a written document. Since any paper upon which God's name was written and might be discarded and thus "erased", the Rabbi's forbade explicitly writing the name of God, except in holy books, with the provisions for the proper disposal of such books.

Many Jews I have spoken with say they think it would be irreverent to write out the name "God," so they type "G-D"

Adventure-Dude... do you follow the Jewish faith?
on Feb 02, 2006
Thanks for catching my typo. I wasn't wrong in the quote, but I was in the reference. still, the OT does refer God in the "us" plural. Yes, I am saying plural as a members of a unit. God (The Father) and God (Jesus Christ), since the Bible does teach us that Jesus (the Word) was with God when all things were created.

Amen
on Feb 02, 2006
I'm surprised nobody has bothered to read any of the New Testament authors. The early Christians certainly wondered the same thing, and the NT authors included the issue in their basic theology.
on Feb 03, 2006
I follow the Jewish faith according to what I find Biblically. I also believe that Jesus is the Servant Messiah mentioned in scripture.

Stutefish,

I agree with you and I disagree with you all in the same sentence I don't see them wondering about the basic theology but they were not clear on how things changed now with the Messiah come and a significant prophecy fulfilled. Which I think is what you were meaning?
on Feb 03, 2006
Which upon face value is where there are many discrepancies in theologies. Maybe that's why faith is so much more important?
on Feb 09, 2006
I'm surprised nobody has bothered to read any of the New Testament authors.

Hmmm... I've read them. I agree, Paul shed MUCH light on this subject, particularly in Hebrews.

I also believe that Jesus is the Servant Messiah mentioned in scripture.

Me too
on Jun 15, 2006
Interestingly the Greek name is from the Hebrew which is derived from two specifc and expressive Hebrew root words (referred to as the tetragrammaton) + yasha (a simple Hebrew verb or adverb depending on the context)

YHWH = I AM that I AM (literally the "self-existent one"
yasha = saviour (or one who saves); deliver (or one who delivers); preserver ( or one who preserves); avenger (or one who avenges)

These root words combined in context or in fact are specific and significant in the Hebrew Scriptures. Jehovah is the only true and living God and the only Saviour. Whoever relied upon the Name of the LORD (YHWH) as the Saviour (yasha) was assured of salvation. There was no other Name or means of salvation.

The Messiah (Annointed One) prophesied to come as the "suffering saviour"; cursed for hanging on a tree; pierced for our transgressions; crushed for our iniquities; etc. was viewed in faith to be coming as the promised Seed (singular) of Abraham through whom all nations (gentiles) would be saved. And without the shedding of blood there is no remission (forgiveness of sins).

OT believers of these amazing prophetic scriptures looked forward in faith to the redemption and salvation God would provide through His annointed one (Messiah) as an act of grace and loving-kindness undeserved.

A Hebrew prophet declared under the inspiration of God; "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."

Summary:
Eternal salvation, assurance of access into the very presence of the only true & living Holy God has always been based on God's grace alone, in faith alone, on the basis of the sacrificial
blood of God's chosen substitute for all our sin. In a word, "Yeshua."
"Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works," Romans 4:6
Maranatha!
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