I believe you are correct in that assumption!

Not surprising and the right thing on his part. Being in government, at least the side of government responsible for exceeding unrealistic expectations immediately, is not for sissies.

Cheers,
Daiwa

It was the right thing for him to do. Few of the problems in New Orleans were because of him, but he apparently padded his resume, and that is reason enough for him to be removed. Good for him for (for once) making an honorable choice.

He probably did it to save his butt. After all lying on his job app would be like committing fraud isn't it?

I want Dabe, Myrrander or C.O.L. Gene tossed into the position. They are so sure that they could have done a better job, let them have the position and find out just how poor a job they could do and have their own names tossed around on the news as complete boobs and incompetents.

Seriously, Brown did a poor job, but it was in response to the worst natural disaster of the last half century (give or take). There was more than enough blame to go around, and people like the Three Amigos I mention above are very quick to look for someone to hang and blame. Screw blame, you think you can do the job better, get in line. If any of the Amigos were that good, I'd have to think they'd be running, say, the Red Cross, or some other relief agency. Yet I don't recall any of them doing such (and I'm sure that the C.O.L. would let us know if he had such experience in his background, since he's so quick to toss around his credentials).

I also don't recall seeing pictures of either of them handing out relief packages, or anything else that would really help the situation. Just the opposite -- a bunch of hot air tossed around on a web site where they could tear down a bureaucrat that was trying to do the best he could.

Now how about the other Bush political hacks that were dumped into FEMA with NO EXPERIENCE. We need to round this out by having Bush resign! I do not have any experience in that area either and would not be interested in working for Bush even in areas in which I have experience.

Now how about the other Bush political hacks that were dumped into FEMA with NO EXPERIENCE.

Chertoff comes immediately to mind.

I also don't recall seeing pictures of either of them handing out relief packages, or anything else that would really help the situation. Just the opposite -- a bunch of hot air tossed around on a web site where they could tear down a bureaucrat that was trying to do the best he could.

I'm going to take issue with that statement. Dabe, in case you weren't aware, has a broken leg, or else I think she'd have been there. like me....I'm not allowed to go, or else I'd have been there too (I'm a Red Cross Volunteer, and they asked me to go). She also donated money to one of the relief funds. Had she come out and said "I donayted", someone would have ripped her a new one for having no humility and boasting about what she did.

As for hot air....well, take a look at the forums sometime. We're ALL guilty of that.

By the way, I'm not fighting Dabe's battles for her...she's perfectly capable of doing that for herself. I'm just trying to point out that sometimes those on the right are guilty of doing the things they accuse the left of.

Point noted on Dabe's potential volunteerism, and sorry that it seems she may have wanted to help but wasn't able to.

With that said, my point about some people talking the talk of doing these jobs better than those that were previously in those positions stands. Until someone walks a mile in another person's shoes, they have no idea of their own ability (or that of the other individual) to do the job.

I'm not saying that Brown did a good or a bad job. I think the record speaks for itself there, and he obviously felt after the fact that he was not the right person for the job or he would have fought for his position.

I continue to take issue with prejudiced idiots that think that just because someone has no experience in a certain job that that person can't possibly do the job. I've been victimized by that stance myself in trying to get started in my own career. No experience, no job. How does one get experience without doing the job? Catch 22.

Brown could have done better, he could have done far worse. The people that needed assistance from FEMA needed the best person doing the job, and needed the best (and many would say much more) that the Government had to offer. They got the best that was available, or should I say the only that was available, and it wasn't good enough, compounded by getting the "only that was available" at too many levels along the way (Mayor Nagin, Gov. Blanco included).

Regarding donations given and not saying much about them, I understand that position also. I don't typically jump around saying "look at me, and look what I gave" either. It generally serves no purpose. I will say that I've not seen *any* commentary from some individuals previously targetted saying the first word about "give to a charity or relief group of your choice please", and that is something I find fault with.

Before the clean-up really started, I was politely pleading with readers to please give if possible, and I saw *zero* added comments to that post. I know there were other priorities for some, but it might have looked better for some individuals to add a few "yes, please consider the plight of the victims and give if possible" words along the way.

Point noted on Dabe's potential volunteerism, and sorry that it seems she may have wanted to help but wasn't able to

Thank you.

Until someone walks a mile in another person's shoes, they have no idea of their own ability (or that of the other individual) to do the job.

That's the same stance that Mayor Nagin took in an interview last week.

Thing is, these people are in positions of authority and power. They're supposed to know what to do, how to do it, and when to do it. We, the public, are relying on them to be more knowledgeable about the job that us, the ordinary citizen. That's why they're in the position that they're in...because they're supposed to know something about it.

Before the clean-up really started, I was politely pleading with readers to please give if possible, and I saw *zero* added comments to that post.

So, because you got no responses, you assume the no-one gave?

Here's a good example of why some folks aren't compfortable saying how much they gave or what they did: ModerateMan wrote an article encouraging people to say what they had done to hel the victims of the hurricane. A few people (myself and Dabe included) left comments about what we had done, were doing, and would continue to do. Somebody (Trinitie, to be exact) came along and started making snide comments about how humble we all were for basically bragging about what we had done. Yes, she got shot down pretty quick, but it still made me feel incredibly uncomfortable, like I was tooting my own horn about how generous and compassionate I was.

True charity, IMO, is done behind closed doors and without fanfare or pomp.

Thank you, yet again, Dharma. When I read that, I was going to post a similar response, but then thought, why bother. I would just get hammered. Now, it was your turn to be spot on.

I cannot go. I have a broken leg. I haven't even been able to go to work. All I could do is donate money. So, I did, to two separate causes, one for people and one for the animals.

There, I have tooted my own horn. But, I feel good that I could at least to that. Not everyone can, and that's OK.

As for the rest of this thread, no comment.

So, because you got no responses, you assume the no-one gave?

No, I assume that some people are so blind in their readings and potential voyages through some other individuals blogs that they wouldn't allow themselves to see the good that might be there.

I admit that I don't often read some other individuals blogs, because I know what to expect when wading into them. But I also carefully craft my own articles, and have made a serious effort not to blacklist individuals so that *everyone* can read and participate.

I do ask that those that participate try to be respectful, and try to leave the vulgarities in their comments elsewhere.

When someone does post an article -- generic as it was -- encouraging people to please give what they could, it would have been much more effective to see some comments added.

I'm sure some don't want to add comments because they already know that all Republicans are cold, cruel, heartless evil bastards who don't care a whit about others. And that is the part that makes me the most mad. Just because I might normally disagree with Dabe, or Myrr, or the Clueless one, doesn't mean that they can't take a moment to say that my words were the right thing to say. And the same holds for me if they post such words first.

Some issues are bigger than politics, despite the grand standing and politicizing that have gone on around the responses to Katrina. Unfortunately some people never seem to understand that, and just as soon as they see opportunity, they run with it, using it to attack the man at the top and all of his minions and so-called followers.

That is what I find most despicable.

Unfortunately some people never seem to understand that, and just as soon as they see opportunity, they run with it, using it to attack the man at the top and all of his minions and so-called followers. That is what I find most despicable.

I find that horrible too. Not everything is Bush's fault, and I think you'll find that when it come right down to the wire there's only one, maybe 2 people here who consistently find ways to blame Bush for EVERYTHING.

Mike Brown (IMO) HAD to resign. It was either resign or be fired. FEMA, the Lousiana Governor, and the Mayor of N.O. all dropped the ball; they all failed to produce a timely an appropriate response to this hurricane. The buck got passed, and untimately it stopped at Mike Brown's desk....although I wouldn't be surprised to see both Nagin and Blanco be asked to step down in the coming months.

Now how about the other Bush political hacks that were dumped into FEMA with NO EXPERIENCE. We need to round this out by having Bush resign

AIN'T HAPPENING! Not now, not ever.